Will Binance collapse before the end of 2024?
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Below are some examples (but by no means exhaustive) that would qualify as collapse:

  1. No withdrawals for 14 days

  2. BNB market cap below $1B (unless it is phased out as planned by the company) for >14 days

  3. Files for bankruptcy

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As part of its plea settlement, Binance had agreed to pay $4.3 billion in fines — real money, not tethers — to US regulatory agencies. The first installment of $898,618,825 is due on March 25 — that’s 30 days after the court approved their guilty plea. $1,612,031,763 is due within six months, and the final $1,805,475,575 is due within 15 months. [Sentencing memo, PDF; Bloomberg, archive]

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2024/03/16/everybody-hates-binance-two-staff-held-in-nigeria-finding-the-cash-for-4-3b-in-us-fines/

If you read this essay you should think that something should break:

https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/bond-villain-compliance-strategy/

He mentions the SEC:

So anyhow, Binance and its CEO Changpeng Zhao (known nearly universally as CZ) have recently pleaded guilty to operating the world’s largest criminal conspiracy to launder money, paying more than $4 billion in fines. This settles a long-running investigation involving the DOJ, CFTC, FinCEN, and assorted other parts of the U.S. regulatory state. Importantly, it does not resolve the SEC’s parallel action.

But still ... Madoff kept his fraud running for 17 years 😭

@uair01 Binance’s Chief Compliance Officer Samuel Lim:

“[We are] operating as a fking unlicensed security exchange in the U.S. bro.”

Binance has chests full of cash and some talented operators, and recent DoJ cases against it seem to have fallen short of KOing it. I don't think they are totally out of the woods yet and will be particularly vulnerable until CZ comes back at the helm. They also lost a lot of senior talent in the past year and will start to feel the effect of that.

Reading this good book:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38605195-lying-for-money?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=HAZLPXspFC&rank=1

The author says that fraudsters rarely stop frauding. And the Binance leadership is suspect. They will probably not become saints soon.

bought Ṁ25 NO

Thats a dumb bet, thanks for the free mana...

Marcus Abramovitchopened aṀ50,000NO at 10% order
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I'm not taking it ... will you?

This is one of the few low probability markets I'm not betting against. My whole strategy revolves around taking advantage of manifolds inherrent tendency to overvalue extremes, but Binance has been a shithole for a long time. I was certain it would collapse any time since 5+ years ago. I'm impressed they've made it this far, but especially now with all the shenanigans going on I think it's not unlikely that they fall.

bought Ṁ10 YES at 11%

If CZ pleading guilty won't do it, what will?

predicts YES

@MP it's a mystery to me. I've read a lot of anti crypto information and no one has a good explanation why it is still afloat and not crashed.

predicts YES

@MP I'd be interested to see it survive a run on BNB

predicts YES

@MP Its business model should be enough! Just wait.

predicts YES

I'm not a fanatic and will welcome opinions against this:

predicts YES

@uair01 The crazy part is that in normal finance, if people expected a ~10% chance of insolvency, there would be a huge exit. Apparently in crypto, it's just business as usual....

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/02/2023/us-prosecutors-worry-binance-charges-could-cause-run-on-exchange
Quoting Molly White: To me, this seems to suggest they’re concerned that Binance is insolvent, because otherwise a run on the exchange (which should simply be custodying cryptocurrencies, not lending them out or doing other things with them as turned out to be the case with FTX) should not be catastrophic. (https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/issue-35-pondering-my-orb)

Thanks for filling my limits!

It is major cope to assume >10% chance that Binance halts withdrawals across the board or declares bankruptcy. Your best bet would be BNB market cap falling below $1B. I hope that's what you guys are expecting lol

predicts YES

@Gen Dude I love betting against you here, if I had any $M to burn I'd double down on this.

predicts NO

@mr22222222 I put a bunch of limits if you come across some more mana

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